I’m astonished at how sensitive the mods must be over there.

Apparently you’re allowed to say whatever baseless slander you like about the eeeeevil tankies but the minute someone says “Hold up a sec, you claim to be anti-authoritarian and yet you support authoritarianism either explicitly or implicitly?” and they have to shut it down immediately.

Regardless, I think I made a pretty solid counterargument to the typical complaint about communism being authoritarian.

Mfers skim read the Wikipedia entry on Hannah Arendt and start thinking they’re justified in slinging accusations about “muh authoritarianism” smh.

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    Never, ever trust that anything you put on another fed that isn’t like… Hexbear, will be allowed to stay. Some of these mfs real redditor-like; and that’s not praise

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      ‘Valuable’ as in important; crucial to fascism, such as respect for the profit motive. To see one fascist describe it:

      Hitler […] also recognized the importance of the profit motive. Deprived of the prospect of having his efforts rewarded, the person of ability often refrains from running risks. The economic failure of Communism has demonstrated this. In the absence of personal incentives and the opportunity for real individual initiative, the Soviet “command economy” lagged in all but a few fields, its industry years behind its competitors.

      State monopoly tolls the death of all initiative, and hence of all progress.

      For all men selflessly to pool their wealth might be marvelous, but it is also contrary to human nature. Nearly every man desires that his labor shall improve his own condition and that of his family, and feels that his brain, creative imagination, and persistence well deserve their reward.

      Léon Degrelle, 1992

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        its industry years behind its competitors

        Is he talking about before of after Hitler shat his pants realizing Soviet’s industry far outmatched Germany’s?

        human nature

        Ah, nothing beats the classics 🍷

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          It’s funny isn’t it, now that we know how it all turned out. Tragic af. I doubt it could’ve been avoided even if the Nazis knew that communist organisation is/was superior. As we’re seeing again today, the yanks are oblivious to the power of using dialectical materialism to organise over a billion people.

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            even if the Nazis knew that communist organisation is/was superior

            If they did, they wouldn’t be Nazis. There’s a good reason the likes of Krupp supported Hitler and NSDAP, and it wasn’t just their shared hatred of minorities

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    “Authoritarian” is their favourite word. Completely, utterly meaningless. But everyone “knows it when they see it” so it makes for the perfect shibboleth to separate them from those evil authoritarian tankies.

    The only good thing about the word is if someone tries to use it in an argument unironically, I know they have 0 idea of what they are talking about. A shame that is something people in the west seem to be proud of that though.

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    Regardless, I think I made a pretty solid counterargument to the typical complaint about communism being authoritarian.

    Nah, not solid, a great post 🥰

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      Proud authoritarian, here. I think the proletariat should have political and economic authority over the bourgeoisie.

      Might as well be a redfash Nazi I guess.

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      killing enough people so there’s enough to go around

      You see stupid tankie, material wealth is just a big limited pile of stuff that is just there to take, so less people = more for everyone, easy! 🤡

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        Libs:

        “Chiner killed a bunch of its own people and that’s how they lifted themselves out of extreme poverty!!”

        Also libs:

        “Chiner is sitting on a demographic timebomb [which is false, btw] which will cause their population to crash and it will tank their economy!!”

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          Is the demographic timebomb thing not true? Isn’t it happening to S Korea and Japan RN? China is promising but it’s not immune from hard expectations like those two nations and crushing city labor, how will China avoid the demographic timebomb from a Marxist perspective?