To my knowledge, the concept of “conservatism” is the will to conserve, preserve past values that are seen as superior. While I don’t agree with this either, this community has almost exclusively posts about fearing new things and trying to show them as evil. Evil migrants, evil new generations, evil new sexualities, whatever.

I do not see any “values” in it, only fear. Rejecting migrants is not based on morals or values that are rational, but on fear. Same for the rest. Which leads to the question, what is the point of this community? It does not lead to debate, people calling it out as fascism on one side (which is quite justified as the root ideas are seemingly identical) and the other side just saying that it’s wrong and that’s it. There’s no debate of values, as there are no values to debate about.

I do not agree with the concept of conservatism, and I couldn’t care less if this place is forever doomed to be downvoted in oblivion. But if you actually want to do something else than fear-mongering, even if you insist on talking about conservatism, then maybe it would be a good idea to refocus the community on actual ideas, and not the typical far-right speeches of hatred and fear that already flood a lot of media.

Of course I believe that it would be better to reconsider opinions that basically encourage the worst of humanity; but even aside from that, there is more to do than to replace every possibility of a conversation with the (stereo)typical “immigrants bad, jesus good, gays evil” speech.

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    How does that work? I’m supposedly somehow obsessed with race simply because we notice that your policies highly negatively impact certain groups more than others. And you aren’t, even though the people you vote for and the policies you support are responsible for it. I’d really like to see a good explanation for this. Fingers crossed.

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      The explanation is that I don’t give a fuck about race, and don’t consider disparate outcome to be an issue, nor a symptom of disparate policy. You’re the one who’s decided that race is what you want to obsess over. Not me

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        7 months ago

        I’m not the one voting for groups that push ethnicity and racially biased policy. Again, just pointing out the outcome of your actions. You projecting that onto others doesn’t change the fact it’s a result of what you vote for.

        Though I 100% believe that you do it thoughtlessly. Personally I’d be just as concerned, and am, about policy that disproportionately hurts rural white people too. The weird thing about that though. They’re often the ones responsible for that too. So weird right? Almost makes you think. Well not you. Almost makes one think. Yes one is more appropriate.

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        I don’t give a fuck about race, and don’t consider disparate outcome to be an issue, nor a symptom of disparate polic

        So if the effects of a policy result in disparate outcomes, that’s totally fine with you? Explain how that’s not racist