I have no idea how you could possibly think this supports your position on things.
If Major Kira was living under a government that offered no alternative to genocide, she’d take up a phaser and start killing government officials, you know, like she literally did, in the show. She’d never condone someone who supported genocide, even if it meant resorting to violent opposition instead.
“Justifying genocide is when you oppose genocide, and the more you oppose it, the more you justify it” - Very Serious Lemmings
Alternatively, “The prospect of an eventual violent revolution justifies genocide” - Very Serious Lemmings
Or more realistically, “I think that the prospect of virtue signaling without affecting government policy justifies genocide, because that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside” - Very Serious Lemmings
That’s the part these fucks don’t understand. Accusing me of supporting genocide because I’m voting against a fascist doesn’t make me question if I’m secretly pro-genocide and I don’t even know it, it makes me question if they are a real person engaging me seriously or just more bad faith online accounts.
I’m not accusing you of supporting genocide for voting against a fascist, I’m also voting against a fascist. I’m accusing you of supporting genocide for voting for a candidate that supports genocide. There’s nothing “secret” about it, it’s your openly expressed position.
And do you understand that under the current American electoral system, any action other than voting for Biden will directly assist Trump in getting into power?
“Justifying genocide is when you oppose genocide, and the more you oppose it, the more you justify it” - Very Serious Lemmings
“Opposing genocide is when you vote for someone doing a genocide and the harder you post about supporting them the more you oppose it” - Very Serious Lemmings 🤡
It’s very funny to me that you received friendly fire because people on your side saw a simple “genocide is bad” meme and just assumed it was about them. You’d think that would lead to introspection but what do I know lol.
“Opposing genocide is when you vote for someone doing a genocide and the harder you post about supporting them the more you oppose it” - Very Serious Lemmings 🤡
Ah, the good old “Thoughts and prayers to LGBT folk who are going to be genocided in the US under a Trump regime”, how classy. You’re literally just endorsing fascism with extra steps, but I’m sure we’ll have great fun in the camps together when you say “AT LEAST I DIDN’T VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRATS”
The democrats aren’t going to coerce me into voting for genocide no matter how many far-right politicians they fund and support to threaten me. After all:
Yes, obviously. I’m not voting for either of the options that intensify genocide.
The classic “I’m going to uproot the tracks!” answer to the trolley problem, while sitting by and doing nothing of the sort. A fascist’s best friend. :)
I’ve seen two interesting spins on the trolley problem recently.
“Just blow up the trolley.” This is actually a very apt description of accelerationism. Blowing up the trolley doesn’t stop the forward momentum – it just turns the trolley barrelling towards the trapped people into a fiery wreckage barreling towards the trapped people. Plus if there’s people on the trolley… Yeah.
“Untie the trapped people while other people push back and stop the trolley”. This is once again rather emblematic, this time of blind idealism. The idea that if we get enough people, then we can stop the trolley,
sounds good on paper and makes you feel nice. But it ignores the reality that people cannot hold back a trolley like that. It just isn’t possible for the necessary number of people to simultaneously push back against it.
Not to mention, the whole point of the trolley problem is that the trolley is a metaphor for an unstoppable event that is impossible to avoid. It’s nice to think we could dismantle it, but we can’t.
Oh, look. Another hopeful leader for the resistance when the red hats take over. Like we ain’t got a million of those lying around somewhere. Have fun getting caught and thrown in a camp.
It’s very funny to me that you received friendly fire because people on your side saw a simple “genocide is bad” meme and just assumed it was about them.
I think it’s more that OP has made numerous comments in this thread arguing that we should vote for Biden.
OP’s vibe seems to be “Yes, I really really really do oppose genocide… but the responsible thing is to vote for Biden, and people who won’t support him are the true genocide enablers.”
I’ll dig around, TBH I saw it on a YouTube clip a few months ago. He was chasing a terrorist I think in the defender and he retreated to this planet. And sico? was like if you don’t give up I’m going to poison the atmosphere with blah blah, and then he did it. And was like holy fuck did a star Trek Captain just commit genocide/war crimes? WTF…
>“Nothing justifies genocide.”
>Proceeds to make arguments justifying genocide
I have no idea how you could possibly think this supports your position on things.
If Major Kira was living under a government that offered no alternative to genocide, she’d take up a phaser and start killing government officials, you know, like she literally did, in the show. She’d never condone someone who supported genocide, even if it meant resorting to violent opposition instead.
“Justifying genocide is when you oppose genocide, and the more you oppose it, the more you justify it” - Very Serious Lemmings
Alternatively, “The prospect of an eventual violent revolution justifies genocide” - Very Serious Lemmings
Or more realistically, “I think that the prospect of virtue signaling without affecting government policy justifies genocide, because that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside” - Very Serious Lemmings
That’s the part these fucks don’t understand. Accusing me of supporting genocide because I’m voting against a fascist doesn’t make me question if I’m secretly pro-genocide and I don’t even know it, it makes me question if they are a real person engaging me seriously or just more bad faith online accounts.
Keep riling the tankies, I enjoy it.
I’m not accusing you of supporting genocide for voting against a fascist, I’m also voting against a fascist. I’m accusing you of supporting genocide for voting for a candidate that supports genocide. There’s nothing “secret” about it, it’s your openly expressed position.
Its the position you are falsely accusing me of, and nothing else.
So are you not voting Biden, or do you deny the genocide being done to the Palestinians?
I’m rejecting your false dilemmas, lies, and accusations.
Without saying what they are, cool. I guess I’m rejecting your false dilemmas, lies, and accusations too, then.
Most online debates are a waste of time, and I just choose to spend minimal time on them. Have a nice one and have fun with the anti-Biden shilling!
Will Trump getting into power make things better for people in Palestine?
No. That’s why I’m not voting for him or helping him get into power.
And do you understand that under the current American electoral system, any action other than voting for Biden will directly assist Trump in getting into power?
“Opposing genocide is when you vote for someone doing a genocide and the harder you post about supporting them the more you oppose it” - Very Serious Lemmings 🤡
It’s very funny to me that you received friendly fire because people on your side saw a simple “genocide is bad” meme and just assumed it was about them. You’d think that would lead to introspection but what do I know lol.
Ah, the good old “Thoughts and prayers to LGBT folk who are going to be genocided in the US under a Trump regime”, how classy. You’re literally just endorsing fascism with extra steps, but I’m sure we’ll have great fun in the camps together when you say “AT LEAST I DIDN’T VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRATS”
The democrats aren’t going to coerce me into voting for genocide no matter how many far-right politicians they fund and support to threaten me. After all:
If you comment more, people will forget your bad takes and agree with you. Surely.
Oh, cool, so you’re not voting for the option that intensifies genocide, right?
… right…?
Oh, who am I kidding? You’ll do whatever you can to ensure a Trump victory and the total genocide of Palestinians.
Yes, obviously. I’m not voting for either of the options that intensify genocide.
This coming from someone who literally eats babies. See, I can make shit up too.
The classic “I’m going to uproot the tracks!” answer to the trolley problem, while sitting by and doing nothing of the sort. A fascist’s best friend. :)
I’ve seen two interesting spins on the trolley problem recently.
“Just blow up the trolley.” This is actually a very apt description of accelerationism. Blowing up the trolley doesn’t stop the forward momentum – it just turns the trolley barrelling towards the trapped people into a fiery wreckage barreling towards the trapped people. Plus if there’s people on the trolley… Yeah.
“Untie the trapped people while other people push back and stop the trolley”. This is once again rather emblematic, this time of blind idealism. The idea that if we get enough people, then we can stop the trolley, sounds good on paper and makes you feel nice. But it ignores the reality that people cannot hold back a trolley like that. It just isn’t possible for the necessary number of people to simultaneously push back against it.
Not to mention, the whole point of the trolley problem is that the trolley is a metaphor for an unstoppable event that is impossible to avoid. It’s nice to think we could dismantle it, but we can’t.
The trolley problem is a thought experiment, intentionally contrived to remove any alternatives to the two options. It isn’t applicable to real life.
You’re literally a Trump supporter so I don’t want to hear you accusing me of being “a fascist’s best friend.”
Oh, look. Another hopeful leader for the resistance when the red hats take over. Like we ain’t got a million of those lying around somewhere. Have fun getting caught and thrown in a camp.
I think it’s more that OP has made numerous comments in this thread arguing that we should vote for Biden.
OP’s vibe seems to be “Yes, I really really really do oppose genocide… but the responsible thing is to vote for Biden, and people who won’t support him are the true genocide enablers.”
Right, he’s a Biden stan and other Biden stans are attacking him for posting “genocide is bad” with one even calling it a “fascist dogwhistle.”
“Are we the baddies?” moment.
Oh, right. Now I follow.
Yeah, the Biden supporters are all doing ridiculous mental gymnastics. I’m not sure I’ve seen mental gymnastics like this outside of a cult.
And the commander of DS9 literally poisoned civilian settlements in one episode.
I don’t recall this, do you know which episode it was?
Season 5, Episode 13 For The Uniform
He does this to a Maquis settlement after they had similarly poisoned two Cardassian planets.
I’ll dig around, TBH I saw it on a YouTube clip a few months ago. He was chasing a terrorist I think in the defender and he retreated to this planet. And sico? was like if you don’t give up I’m going to poison the atmosphere with blah blah, and then he did it. And was like holy fuck did a star Trek Captain just commit genocide/war crimes? WTF…
AppleTea beat you to it. Season 5 episode 13 For the Uniform.
Yeah I mean fiction isn’t always the best guide to real life situations.