A sign of the times
after a long time as a grassroots campaigner
this is welcome news. kind of hard to believe.
as we speak, Assange is on US soil, not out of the woods yet.
but the Aussie PM is pro-assange, at least in word. we’ll see.
waiting to see if wikileaks will accept monero (or crypto) for the assange rehabilitation fund and will donate there :)
an historic day
I regularly run Haveno Reto, it’s max userbase is 10 but the average is about 8 online at any one time.
I don’t think that it’s a honeypot as it doesn’t make sense. The author argues that the main vulnerability is the manipulation of node selection - but users are free to self-host nodes and use any node, it’s not baked into the program. Anyone can set up a ‘malicious’’ Monero node anyhow. As others have mentioned it seems like the kid who wrote the diss track doesn’t really know what’s going on (was it Majestic?). Lastly, they end by saying they are a competitor - but they just stopped their work on a localmonero clone - and are leaving the community forever - but please share this post around. Something smells off. But we have to take each anonymous opinion semi-seriously in the internet apparently.
Besides all that, Haveno’s not used very much (yet?). There are a few trades offered but none in my jurisdiction. Perhaps this will grow with time, but as yet we aren’t seeing ‘mass adoption’ despite delisting and shutdowns of other p2p exchanges.
I’m more up for posting crypto > XMR trades but it’s not quite clear to me how ‘Instant’ crypto trades are settled, and there was a recent warning about unfulfilled instant crypto-xmr trades being punished. It would be nice to just post up liquidity with a small margin and have it be able to autocomplete trades whilst afk. A boy can dream!
If I were to make the case against Haveno it would be thus:
1.a. This means that I personally would want 100% backing of the deal in Haveno, which locks away someone’s xmr, an unappealing offer.
1.b. Even then we would depend on the fair arbitration to ensure the deal was finished. Fine for crypto trades within Haveno but cash by mail trades? It took localmonero/agora a long time to establish its reputation, and it is a tough job to arbitrate even with 2 benign actors.
2.b. The first username I saw of an arbitrator was on the aforementioned warning notice which (no shade) wasn’t written in the best English, I suspect English as 2nd language bu. Hopefully this improves.
tl;dr : despite being a decentralised p2p facility, Haveno Reto depends on good-faith in arbitrators and whilst it’s in beta it’s an easy target for fud.
jokes on you, you can’t buy monero on centralised exchanges!
hi majestic
isn’t it 16^2 ?
In summary, while BitPay provides a convenient way to use cryptocurrencies for transactions, it significantly compromises financial anonymity
i.e. the cost of convenience is privacy (see modern finance, most smartphone apps, g**gle services, etc.)
retailers selling what I want to buy accept Monero natively
good luck. my hope is that atomic swaps enable convenient point of sale conversion with plausible deniability
must have mixed up your site with another that had online privacy guides
sounds a bit paranoid to be fair
once again i don’t know majestic and have no interest.
but I know Tux is a solid guy, I trust his opinion. he’s also a busy guy - I don’t think there’s an international conspiracy paying random small-time accounts to occasionally bash the reputation of a dodgy exchange. or that the exchange is so good and unique that it attracts the ire of bigger powers, it seems very unlikely to me.
are you pro-majestic? if so, can you make an iron man case for the exchange?
once again, I don’t actually care about majestic but I’m interested that good info is being passed around the community - particularly at this pivotal era where exchanges are key
hey freedomtools. I’m a fan of your site btw.
just seemed funny.
what do you mean by
corruption ?
surely it’s fine to question players in the space, nay, interrogate to get a better idea of whats going on
I called out allark previously. tbh I don’t know majestic
The Great Taking is actually a term coined by Robert David Webb - A must read
Full book & Docu available free @ https://thegreattaking.com/
don’t forget to vote!
you’re more free that way
real handy this one
now we just need more users
does hardenedsteel not count?
https://github.com/HardenedSteel/haveno-mainnet/actions/runs/9072024811
maximum privacy and some compromises
care to explain?
and I love a good airdrop - just let my enter my phone number and drivers license into X to join, then I can get my gen 0 gems and finally convert them into Yats to cash in my skyhammers
THEN and only then will we achieve mass adoption.
nothing against fluffy
sad to see localmonero / agoradesk go
a stalwart in the community.
regarding the github proposal:
recanman commented May 12, 2024 •
I’ve spoken to Alex. This will not happen.
Regarding alternatives, one trader mentioned bitvalve ( https://www.bitvalve.com/ ) which has p2p XMR trades [also I haven’t used the site, it could be a huge pot of honey so the onus is fully on you]
although right now it’s pretty sparse - the only bank xfer option is rupees but there’s quite a few paypal for example.
hoping haveno goes smooth, can’t wait for the XDEXs to reign supreme. will spin up a node & instance when it’s out of beta
they got something done - how many people got a good service out of coinjoins?
plus they likely awoke many to the problem of ensuring privacy online - particularly in finance, and particularly in crypto
PS: This is good for Monero - sweats profusely
@Rucknium taking the lead on analysis here.
check the paper he wrote re: the first wave on his git here
then on this wave - fat input transactions filling blocks on XMR chain :
Thanks for mentioning my paper. It analyzed the privacy impact of an adversary owning many outputs. The transactions that are congesting the mempool/txpool now have many inputs. There may be a privacy impact of large many-input txs, but I don’t have a clear idea of what it would be, and it’s not the same as a standard black marble flood.
neither of those sites work
also ddos attacks on multiple remaining exchanges - wizardswap, trocador among others in the last week.
some have suggested this corrals sites + services onto cloudflare as a chokepoint for future censorship.
however xmr keeps on ticking even despite mempool flooding last month.