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  • Les differences semblent être que:

    Pour les pro-autoroutes, la récolte a été fait sur une période contenant 2 weekends et sur des zones desservies par la future autoroute, tandis que les anti-autoroute ont ratissé plus large (l’ensemble des 2 départements) et sur une période en semaine.

    On peut supposer que les pro ont récolté plus d’avis de personnes qui travaillent et qui vont bénéficier de l’artère de communication, alors que les anti ont pris principalement des non-actifs et des personnes non concernés directement.

    Conclusion?

    “Il y a trois sortes de mensonges: le mensonge ordinaire, le parjure et les statistiques.”

    Chacun à fait un sondage en cherchant à obtenir la réponse qui soutiendrait son point de vue, et on n’est pas plus avancé.

    dilbert




  • I think the click baity title jinxed any discussion here.

    I’m all for trans people having the right to live as their chosen gender and be left in peace to use the toilets of their choice, but the article clearly slanted it to be a case of “let’s ignore JK Rowling and co and bring this back to being a man problem”. This is from the first paragraph that gives the lens you’re supposed to read the data through.

    Now, just to clear up on my origins, I’m a British expat so English is my native language but I’m also painfully aware of the scourge that is the Tory party and the havoc they’re wreaking, and I broadly agree with /u/crypticcoffee regarding the fact that there isn’t really a gender devide when it comes down to who is pushing the war on transgender people, it’s transphobes Vs the rest of us.

    The revised title is much cleaner and frankly I agree with what it says, men are generally less accepting of trans people than women.


  • It depends “Is transphobia a problem” is not the same thing as “Are trans people a problem”.

    For one thing trans-women seem to get far more hate than trans-men, which could sway things. Also being less exposed to progressive attitudes could also blind people to what trans people face (which would affect men more).

    All this to say that the question asked in the study and what the article makes of it are very different things.

    Also the spreads put up as evidence are no where near large enough (2/3 points each way) to push the idea that “cis” men are driving the issue (the study didn’t mention gender identity, the article just assumed).

    All in all this article feels more like rage bait than anything that would push the discussion on trans rights Vs women’s rights forward in any reasonable way.



  • Pity. But judging from your vernacular, you’re from a Western country, none of which have a stellar history

    FTFY. There’s not a country around that doesn’t have something dark in it’s closet. I feel that a real patriot would accept the dark parts of their country’s history, and work to make the future brighter rather than putting their fingers in their ears and going ‘nananana’.

    I’m not signaling any country out here since there isn’t a point.

    This does not mean that we should never point out bad stuff other countries are doing just because at some point in the past our country also did terrible shit. Raising the plight of the Uyghurs does not lighten what happened in Algeria, but neither can what happend in Algeria be used as a justification (or whataboutisme) for what’s currently happening in Xinjiang.