• Transporter Room 3@startrek.website
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    2 days ago

    Truck, truck, rich prick, rich prick…

    0 surprises here. Except maybe the wrx, thinking about it, I would have thought it’d be higher than average but not that much higher.

  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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    2 days ago

    I’d like to see this data against ownership numbers. Like, what percentage of Dodge Ram owners have a DUI.

    I don’t think that’s what this data is showing us. From what I see, it looks like, from a random set of 1000 DUI’s, these were the most common vehicles, and/or, from 1000 vehicle drivers, those that got DUIs were driving these cars most often… Sort of thing.

    I want to know, how many were purchased, and how many individual drivers were cited for DUI while driving that vehicle.

    I’m betting that all the very rare and expensive vehicles would have a huge percentage of DUI drivers. Someone driving around in a hurrican, probably has enough money to afford whatever ticket the law can throw at them, and there’s probably so few of them that actually obey the laws that a large portion have been caught DUI.

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      1 day ago

      I like how you explained how the dataset was biased, then instead of describing how to eliminate/reduce that bias, you applied the same underlying tactic to make someone else look bad instead.

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        Oh, I’m just curious about alternatives. There’s a lot of ways to measure this, but only a few that are mostly unbiased.

        The results will likely always be skewed one way or another, since this is about punishment, not the number of people committing the crime. It’s impossible to know how many people drive while intoxicated, we only know how many get caught doing it. The data is flawed from the start.

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    2 days ago

    The real crazy part here is that the s-10 was discontinued in North America in 2004 and still makes this list? Does that tell us that s-10 drivers are wild or that this data is 20 years old?

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      8 hours ago

      That was my thought too. Wonder what the timeframe was because if it’s data collected over multiple years you’d expect to see an overrepresentation of vehicles that were sold through that whole period while models that get discontinued, or launched in that timeframe would be underreported. Also maybe some demographics, like was the high number of S-10 while it was available new and presumably driven by people that recently purchased those new vehicles, or is it 10+ years after it stopped being sold when it’s the old farm shitbox or a young guys first truck.

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    Half of them are yank tanks. That checks out. The kind of arsehole who’d buy those cars is the same kind of arsehole that would drive drunk.

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      The other half are rich pricks. That also checks out. The kind of privileged douche who would buy a BMW is the same kind that thinks they’re above the law.

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        Are BMWs that expensive in the US? Pretty much every street racer monkey has one in Europe.

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          In the US BMW’s are imported “luxury” cars from Europe. The monkeys here all drive Dodge Chargers.

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              All depends on the area’s economic state. Audi A4 and BMW 4 series by was what most high schoolers drove around. Heck my first car was a A4 Quattro.

              “Rich Prick” cars were things usually Italian like Maserati and Alfa Romeo, or an Audi R8.

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    What I love is that despite the fact that these cars are not all “one type” , and in fact are all driven by VERY different people……

    You can picture the stereotype for the driver for each car, and you’re probably right.

    Likely 95% male, and you can picture the buffoon each one is likely being driven by. Hell you could probably almost guess the colour of the cars.

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      The Dodge ram is red and I know the guy who drives it and keeps getting DUIs. I’ve offered to share my Uber with him just so he’s not putting people in danger but he just yells “Yee haw, brother”, fixes his greasy mullet, and hops in.

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      It is likely a bit of selection bias by cops as well. They target the rich jerks because of the expensive eye catching cars and the truck assholes because they are big and drien bynyokels.

      The drunken Camry crew is out there just blending in.

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        Sure, but it’s mostly selection bias from the other direction.

        If I have a need to break the rules and look flashy doing it, I’m not picking the Camry as my car.

        If I have masculinity issues and I drink to deal with them because I’m too macho for therapy, I’m not going to drive a minivan.

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    Make and model aside, what I want to know is when the bars close at two and I see numerous clearly drunk drivers on my way to work at five, what have they been doing for the past three hours?

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      The guy that said DUI and DWI are the same is wrong.

      First, states have different blood alcohol levels that qualify as intoxicated.

      Second, assume you are driving funny on a Friday night and a cop pulls you over. They will test your blood alcohol level using breathalyzer. If it shows you have been drinking but your blood alcohol levels is below the legal intoxication level, then that is a DUI, and it is a lesser offense.

      Last I heard, some states like Texas don’t even have such a thing as DUI. It used be and still might be, that if you are not intoxicated then the cops will force you to get a ride home but there is no criminal charge.

      DWI means you were caught driving with a blood alcohol level that is above the legal intoxication limit. In most states, the legal intoxication level is so high that if you actually go over it then you are certainly very obviously drunk. This is a much more serious charge.