• rdri@lemmy.world
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    This is not something that can prevent Putin from removing army from a non Russian territory. If he is not an idiot, that is.

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        You essentially argue that the brutal invader has to win his illegal invasion during which they bomb and kill countless civilians, because otherwise other civilians that support the illegal and brutal invasion might suffer some consequences?

        You can’t be for real, noone could argue this in good faith.

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          Countless civilian is wrong as I have shown. Compared to other modern wars its pritty tame. In Gaza already the same amout of civilians got killed that im Ukraine over the 3-4 years.

          civilians that support the illegal and brutal invasion might suffer some consequences?

          Like who? Doctors that help the dying? So before Russia was there they had to help the local village people. After Russia came they had to tell em take a hike?

          I don’t know how you can argue, in good faith that doctors, policemen, teachers, townhall workers, etc. Who just continued workig in they’re communities should be punshed.

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            Fucking love the whataboutism on display here. They didn’t kill as many civilians as ______ so no harm, no foul.

            Fuck off with that garbage take

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              Whataboutism or whataboutery (as in “what about…?”) is a pejorative for the strategy of responding to an accusation with a counter-accusation instead of a defense of the original accusation.

              What I did not do. I told you the claim of genocide does not apply as the amount of civilian casualties is lower that other similar scaled modern wars. Who did I accuse in my counter accusation?

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            As the prodigy once said.
            Invaders must die.

            As I say.
            Collaborateurs will get what they have coming.

            Doctors have a duty to help wounded defenders, policemen have a duty to protect citizens from invaders, teachers must not teach invaders propaganda, townhall workers must not support the logistics and infrastructure of the invader.

            If you do you are a traitor and should be punished.

            If you are an invader, you must die.

            Und wenn du mir auf der Straße über den Weg läufst und deine Lügen und Propaganda verbreitest, wirst du sehen wie ernst ich das meine.

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        Putin withdrawing army from Ukraine will cause chaos instead of peaceful life - a chaos that would never happen if he continues killing people in this war.

        Sure grandma, now let’s get you to your bed.

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          OK. just look at real word examples of the US Afganistan withdrawal. How many civilans do you think got killed? How many deliberately? Rewatch the videos, there is enough videos of people fleeing from the approching army, ( wich noted, is supported by the majority of afganistan ) And dying in they’re attemnt. If you want that what happens in Kabul. You apperently don’t want what is good for.the civilans.

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            Are you kidding? You are saying the war is good for civillians.

            “Let me invade your country and hold your territories and people hostage so you’ll understand that if I stop the aggression then those people will most likely die. I will proceed with my aggression and hold more of your territories and people hostage, and you’ll thank me for keeping those people safe” - Putin, probably.

            Disgusting

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          Nice. Establish some traitor purges next. But nice try Stalin, go kil some people you disagree with somewhere else.